Wednesday, April 6, 2016

Russell, “On Denoting”; “Descriptions” [Henry Tran]

I agree with the logical way that Russell is trying to explain his reasoning, such that he puts forth dialog as: "What do I really assert when I assert “I met a man”?"(Russell 1919, 168) then compares it to "I met Jones" and then stating that “I met a man, but it was not Jones” is not a lie because the description of man is ambiguous. As Russell states, "Confusion of primary and secondary occurrences is a ready source of fallacies where descriptions are concerned"(179), because of the ambiguous descriptions words are understood a certain way by different people like the fact if X (the King of France) is bald. However, there are some problems for me.

Something that I somewhat disagreed with about Russell's is that in the real world, we take words in to context such that there is the ambiguous word 'man' and there is a name 'Jones', Jones is a man, so it would not be a lie that we see Jones as the 'man' in 'I met a man' which is Jones by a description. I can't really wrap my head around the ambiguity when we usually use words in other conjectures. Although we can think otherwise.

A somewhat confusing part of the reading was the part about the Scott and Waverley: "This will be satisfied by merely adding that the c in question is to be Scotch." as Russell states about that existence on page 178.

2 comments:

  1. In less I am much mistaken, you seem to be replacing "a man" with "the man". "C(x) where x is human is not always false (Russell 1905, p.481)," pertains to the general ambiguous denoting phrase. So substituting "Jones" for "a man" creates a different phrase in which Jones is actually "the man." I will not try to extend Russell's logic on this, as it is accessible on page 482 of On Denoting.

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  2. I was quite interested in Russell's paragraphs about the difference between saying "I met a man" and saying "I met Jones", to me, however, they are different because they seem to state one "exclusive" and one "inclusive" facts. When I hear "I met a man", I interpret it as such: "I met a singular entity"; "this entity is among men"; "men are significantly different from anything that are not men". When I hear "I met Jones", I interpret it as such; "I met a singular entity"; "this singular entity is specific"; "this specific entity is significantly different from anything else". So to me "I met a man" and "I met Jones" are really not significant different. We just use them depending on how precise we what to deliver our idea. For example, when I just started dating my boyfriend, he always told me something like "I did X, Y, Z...with a friend", and sometimes he would say "I did A, B, C... with a friend, and his name is Joe". To me at that point, those two ways of description really were not significant different, because all I knew about this person was whatever he/she did with my boyfriend, and yes the name Joe (but the name itself doesn't provide any more information to me than the stories he/she involved in I knew anyways). However, after I knew more and more about my boyfriend, it became important to point out it the name Joe, because at that point, when I heard Joe, I could recall some more information about this person without him telling me all the stories again. For example, when he told me "I did 1, 2, 3...with Joe", I know oh "he did 1, 2, 3... with (the person he did X, Y, Z... with)".

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